>>Why does VFPF*&&@ing6 start forms at a position decided by itself. Even if autocenter is .T. it offsets the form and does other weird stuff. If I set a form to autocenter .T. I want the damn thing to be in the f@$# center.... Nowhere else... OK!!!

>Because of some internal Visual FoxPro calculations it is not enough if you set form.AutoCenter = .t. in the development environment. You have to reissue this.AutoCenter = .t. in Form.Init()

I have never had to do this. Can you give me an example where this would need to be done?