Sorry to hear about the downsize in the volunteer ranks folks.

Back about 3 months ago I got a call from some marketing firm doing a survey about support in sortware and hardware. It was very much SW oriented and I guessed that it was a M$ study.

They had lots of questions about newsgroups as a support tool and I remember telling them that M$ was absent from their entire product line in their own newsgroups. Go to any other than VFP and it's the same story.

I'm sure that may others told them the same thing or they realized that I was right <g>.

I like Mike's idea of UTMVP.

Too bad that you wonderful MVP's lose that shingle.

Thanks to all that have helped me and the countless others in the past.

__Stephen