actually - it crashed my VFP5.0 (heb) - I still have to check it in VFP5.0a also it costs more then VFP (about 500$) but still it is very neat, and can do some stuff I didn't see any other tool does Arnon > >look at the dynacube demo on the activeX gallery ... > > > >Arnon > > > >> >I hate grids because of all the hidden complexity that is poorly > >> documented. > >> >I like what they do, but not how they do it. > >> > >> Is there any 'real' alternative? > >> > >> Thanks > >> Tom > >> > > Wild name! Have you 'actually' used in in VFP? > > Thanks, > Tom >