Jorge,

While using VPM, I was on the newsgroups every day, and it very much multiplied the value of my investment. There are a lot of wonderful people, just like here on the UT, who will help you out -- and they are all using the same system as you, so the help tends to be very specific and immediately useful.

I'll give one story to back up my claim that Joe and Steve do listen. The version I started with, version 5, had a known bug that no one was able to reproduce. One night by chance I happened on the bug, and after a few hours reproduced it. By way of the newsgroups, I posted my steps and it was immediately reproduced by a dozen other users. VPM promptly fixed it.

>I haven't gotten very involved in the promatrix NG, I guess I should, I was curious about what's really common practice. Reading some of the posts I'm realizing a permanent edit mode (EOD)is not that bad after all.
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>>Jorge,
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>>Joe and Steve have consistently said that they put in Edit Mode as an accomodation to those who insisted, and left it out by default since the majority of their developers don't want/need it.
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>>In my experience with Promatrix, if you find a lot of people don't like something, and can get the developers to vocalize that fact, then Promatrix will change it. If you can't get a large vocal agreement on the Promatrix newsgroups, then Promatrix is justified in saying the majority of their developers like it the way it is.
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>>>I recently started using VPM, and was surprised that they don't implement an edit mode by default, they recently added some functionality to do so, but it's not fully supported, in their documentation they say that having forms always in edit mode was a more common practice since VFP came along.
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>>>I've always used an edit mode, and prefered it, because it's harder to mess things up this way, so I was surprised to hear that this was an "uncommon" practice ... what do you all think?, do you use an edit mode?