Cool, I had thought of that and reached for the for loop anyway, I like yours better. Mind if I put it on the wiki in the FormCollection topic?

>Yes, in fact that what I thought you had said (serves me right for not reading more carefully). This eliminates the problem of having the form move "up" in the order. Basically, what I do is something like

>lni = _SCREEN.FormCount
>DO WHILE lni > 0
>  oForm = _SCREEN.Forms(lni)
>  IF oForm.BaseClass = 'FORM'
>    IF oForm.QueryUnload()
>      oForm.Release
>    ENDIF
>  ENDIF
>  lni = lni - 1
>ENDDO

>I'd say that any additional processing that would be caused by any existing toolbars is so insignificant as to be meaningless.