As Jeff has replied, the fact that Dilberts exist was not my point. We all know them, they know who they are, they have caused my eyes to bug out on more than one occasion.

My point was that it is evident from this discussion that a lot more is at stake in the Vb vs. VFP as frontend to C/S arguement than just we are using VB cause MS said to.

PF

>Don't forget Perry that there are still a lot of Dilberts type managers making decisions. But like you said thanks to John we know that not all of the managers are Dilberts.