Thanks for your help,
If it were my module, I don't think I would let controls be cutoff. I think adding the shape as a border makes more sense than a pageframe (boss's suggestion). Thanks again for your help and time.

Marcus.

PS: sorry if this is sent twice. I got a strange message asking me to reexecute my last transaction!?

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>It doesn't sound like you need a pageframe at all. So, I wouldn't use it. Given your situation I'd go with the idea of setting the border width to 0 on the container and lay it over a box shape that's the size you want. The controls will be cut off by the container and if the box is just a tiny bit bigger than the container, you should get the effect you want.
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>>My presentation need is to have a container that I can scroll information within. Are you saying you can't do this on either a pageframe or a container? If you can, then wouldn't they be interchangeable in this situation. It seems to me that the pageframe is overkill, given that I won't be using any of the benefits of a pageframe (tabs, multiple pages). However, it does give me the visual effect I desire with the borders. I guess my real question would be: Is using a pageframe for just the border effect a bad idea? (perhaps resource usage?)