Perhaps separating the two, instead of being joined at the hip. Now that is a very intriguing idea indeed....

Hmmmmm

>>In terms of it being a complete framework, I would say that it is. After all, application logic does not belong in the UI. For UI's, I would suggest the productivity gains can be made through the use of templates. i.e, there not really framework issues....
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>PErhaps is a complete BizObj framework. Now, you need a complete UI fraemwork cause there are repetative things that you do in a UI that a framework would/does simplify.
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>BOb