Hi Dan,

Look at sysmetric(3) and sysmetric(4) as well. they tell you the border width of the form. Also 10 and 11 (for non-sizeble borders).

Sysmetric(9) tells you the height windows sets for a window title. I doesn't change if you don't have a title, it's just the default setting for all window titles. I put the following in a button and it lines a form up perfectly next to the button.

x = newobject('form')
x.titlebar = 0
x.top = this.top + thisform.top + sysmetric(9) + sysmetric(4)
x.left = this.left + this.width + thisform.left + sysmetric(3)
x.show

hth.

BTW Mike, thanks for the lead-in to sysmetric(9). I hadn't used it before.

>>Hi Dan,
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>>>Sorry. The form's header height.
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>>SysMetric(9)?
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>>>Each control is positioned relative to the header of the form.
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>>I don't understand this either, is it some spec to a project your working on? A controls Top is relative to the bottom of the TitleBar ('header'), so I don't follow. Sorry.
>
>We've got a calendar control which we have added to a form. Our main form has a button when pushed will call this calendar form and we want to position the form right next to the button. We used objtoclient to get the top position of the button but since the top position is relative to the header height of the form, we were off by that much.