*Pageframe.Resize() debugout 'Page resize '+str(this.width) *Form.Resize() debugout 'form resize '+str(this.width) this.pageframe1.width = this.width I get: form resize 475 Page resize 372Because 372 is the starting point of the widths. Shouldn't these be the same!? It seems like the Moved events fires before its moved and the Resize fires before its resized in a pageframe, but the opposite in a Form. Is this true?