>>Actually, I just turned the titlebar off in design mode, added a command button on the form and in the click event I have the code
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>>WAIT WINDOW STR( SYSMETRIC( 9 ) ) NOWAIT
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>>I added a THISFORM.TitleBar = 0
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>>And still this always returns 24.
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>AFAIK it will always return the OS system setting for a title bar height. It's not returning the height of the titlebar on a form. It the setting that VFP looks at to determine the height of a titlebar should be.
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>Did the code not work? It worked fine for me.

I'm going to test it right now with an alternating command button, turning the title bar on and off.