I completely agree but unlike Mark, I won't be leaving UT. However, the noise-to-gem ratio have been getting steadly worse and have almost become unbearable lately. I remember a time when Chatter-section of the forum had a minor share of the overall threads (as it should be) but now have become so huge as to overshadow the other sections.

If this trend continues, I propose moving the Chatter-section to altogether another forum, not just a section of Visual Foxpro forum (I'm serious about this). This way, if I want to "have fun", I'll go to this forum.

Although nobody might care just one person like Mark left UT, how do we know how many have/will leave w/o posting a word? Soemthings got to be done about all this.

>Okay, Guys and Gals,
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>Enough is enough and I've had it up to here with the nonsense on this forum.
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>What Michel wants to do with his business is just that, his business. I've been a lurker, a contributor, a PUTM and now a SUTM depending on my needs at the time.
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>I, and many others, have put up with an awful lot of guff on the UT and for myself I didn't understand most of it as I'm not American and the things you take for granted make no sense outside of North America. I can't be "part of the UT community", as I live several thousand miles away and trying to carry on any type of relationship with a bounce time of 16 hours or more is difficult at best.
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>Once, UT was the place to go to get answers on things FoxPro. Now? Well, you can still get answers but you've got to wade through a lot of other stuff to get to the nitty gritty. Besides which, there are plenty of other places to get the same answers from.
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>Take yesterday (19th November 1999) and the thread "My 2-cents perf. and sticking the PUTM with the bill.....", Useful FoxPro knowledge? Not in a million years! That thread alone accounted for about 25% of the total message traffic. Worth the PUTM fee. Not in my opinion. Worth the SUTM fee? Again, not in my opinion.
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>I can get the same answers about FoxPro elsewhere on the Internet without having to deal with the rudeness and sometime downright insulting behaviour of SUTM, PUTM and MVP alike and I intend to do just that.
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>Don't bother replying to this, I won't be logging on again to read them.
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>I won't say it's been a pleasure since for some time now it hasn't.
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>H & G