All I can say is that I wish there were more guys like you around - thinking rationally in the midst of a firestorm.

I hope to meet you some day. I mean that sincerely and I am grateful for what you have said.

-Jeff


>First, I understand your point completely. You're right, perhaps "Gonzo" John shouldn't have said want he did. I can understand his POV as well. Like me, he earned his status because of his participation here. Speaking only for myself, I'm not active anywhere else. As a result I've a great deal of appreciation and respect for this place.
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>Second, I've known Gonz for a couple of years. During that time we've exchanged numerous private messages and more than a few phone calls. I know him to be a completely honest and forthright individual. I always hesitate to speak for anyone else, but in this instance, I will. He has the best interest of the UT at heart.
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>Does the above mean we agree 100% of the time? Nope, we don't, but he has my sincere respect. I also respect your (and JVP's) position. It's my personal belief that I should treat each and every member of this forum with the same grace and respect that I would want to receive. During my time here, I think that I've accomplished that.
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>I think he (Gonzo) was wrong in his post to tell you to walk. In fact, he'll be copied on this post. However, I can also understand why he said what he said. Gonz has tirelessly been a supporter of both FoxPro (through his efforts here and elswhere), and a supporter of this site, both as a PUTM, and now as a Sysop. It's not hard for me to forgive him for, what in the overall picture, is a slight misstep.
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>In regards to your feeling regarding the MVP program, I for one am extremely grateful to the non-MVPs who showed support for the program last month. I told the MVP program manager, in a private email, that it wasn't the MVPs who saved the program, but the support we received from the non-MVPs. For that, I'm extremely grateful.
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>I'll agree with you (and, again, JVP), that MVPs should be held to a higher standard. I'll also say this: That standard should also be extended to how we conduct ourselves. From my reading of the purpose of the program, this is perfectly consistent with it.
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>In closing, Jeff, let me draw on your signature line. I'm over 50, and, yes, I do remember the 1960's. Back then there was a saying that went, "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem." Are there problems? Yep, there are. Let's you and I (and Gonzo) agree to be part of the solution rather than the problem. Waddya say?