I think they have a freebie version. One concern though: I don't think Visual MaxFrame is going to scale to n-tier design.

>>I prefer the Visual MaxFrame way of handling the application object. It is separated from the menu object, forms object, etc. They collaborate, but aren't entirely dependent on the application object.
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>>This is great for develoment, where I don't have to instantiate the application object and all of it's objects in order to test a simple form.
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>Chris,
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>Great, thanks for the reply. Is theirs a 'basic' framework in the sense that they do not restrict you? I'm looking for the slimmed down basic version I can use to build my own structure on.
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>Meanwhile I'll go see if they have any demo stuff.....
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>Best,
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>DD