That is exactly the group I am talking to.... Seriously, I am not pulling these statements out of thin air. Anybody who thinks the market - the OVERALL MARKET -not just your little corner of the world is increasing - is looking at the world through rose-colored glasses...

Sorry....


>Shoot, these are the same guys who call me periodically asking me whats up...if they knew, why would they ask me? :-)
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>>Talk to somebody in MS's marketing area, perhaps Visual Studio Marketing.... I don't have a URL...sorry.
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>>>Can you post a URL? I'd really like to see those.....
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>>>>Actually, there are a lot of quantitative stats out there. MS spends a lot of time pulling that info together...
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>>>>>Let's agree to disagree. I don't think we can quantitatively discuss a lot of this stuff as there are no real stats out there. As to the cert tests, I don't think we'll know the impact or lack thereof for at least 12 months.
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>>>>>>Instead of telling me how you feel, give me some quantitative evididence to support you conclusions. I have history, and the current state of affairs on my side here to support mine....