> This is a shame cuz VJ++ is an excellent combination of OOP language and IDE.
> I think M$ is making a big mistake with this one. VC is too complex for most
> beginners and VB is not very OOP at all (although it has an excellent IDE). I
> think VFP & VJ are M$ top dev tools but either will get the respect they
> deserve since they're unwanted step children.

Of course, this statement is based on the VS6 implementationof those tools, while this VJ++ thread is about future VS versions (VS7). Keep in mind that all the other tools will be developed and much better also, which might change the point of view for the other tools...

Markus