>Hi Jim,
>
>>Form's have a minimum width, for me it is 104. If you want to change it you need to set the form's MinWidth property to the minimum width you want. It si by default -1 which is what gives me the 104.
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>I was testing this and for me even with a MinWidth of 50, I can't get the form smaller than 104.

Your're right - I think my original explanation about the titlebar size was correct after all.