>So you've seen that, too, huh? Everytime I bring that up I get shouted down.
Yes, AFAIK, there are no operational large systems here done in VB, in spite of a number of attempts - but how much to blame VB and how much to blame Tom's #2:
"2.) A large supply of incompetent VB programmers."
is a fair question :)
The Anonymous Bureaucrat,
and frankly, quite content not to be
a member of either major US political party.