Fine then, lets start the discussion...

Where outside the box would you like to start???

>I'm assuming you are referring to Microsoft's corner of the world - a fairly big corner - for now at least.
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>I want to start thinking out of the Microsoft Box. Howbout you, John - or are you one of those who thinks that the Microsoft way is the only way both now and in the future? I think it's a mistake to think this way.
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>>How about VBA, VBScript.......
>>For CE, there are VB and VC toolkits....
>>Maybe in your corner of the World it's different. In the other 99%, VB is the tool of choice for projects 80% of the time.