>The point I was trying to make was this. Given enough time, SoftICE or other debugger, and skill your dongle WILL be removed (ask Autodesk). It should also be noted that these VXD's do other things like monitor any communication between software and the hardware key, picking up authentication hashes and data that can then be attacked.

Yes absolutely. I do agree that a debugger can do the job. then again, is it worth the effort?

I still do not agree that a standard type of hacking VXD can predict a custom response on a custom programmed dongle kinda thingy.

Anyway, i'm glad im now working on a software project that delivers free software to the end-users :-)