>Jim,
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>>>No I haven't dome much with MTS at all. Yes the design would need to change for MTS because the business object's in the design in that paper are stateful and that won't fly well in MTS. That design would also have to change on a web server implementation even if MTS was not being used because of the statefulness of the business objects. The design approach works ok with desktop based applications though.
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>Thanks for the reply. I mostly wanted to see if my understanding of your paper was clear, and like Jeff, I'm looking for good examples of doing the stateless approach. I'm in the middle of a Web Connnection project right now, and am wrestling with those design issues as we speak :-)

David,

PMFJI. Think of designing your classes with absolutely no custom properties, and you'll start seeing what additional parameters you need for your methods. That will buy you stateless objects.
Just my .02