Well, to not have an application object is not very OOP too ( or maybe not very Frameworkish ), :-) so why not, in light of that, just get it to work properly keeping the PRIVATE variable and press on? :-)

>That's what this person did (actually a public variable (shudder) ).
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>Both of us thought that was somewhat of a kludge (BG), and were trying to find a more OOP-sy way of accomplishing the same task.
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>>Then how about creating a PRIVATE variable in the main PRG to hold the form object reference that will persist until you are ready to release it?
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>>Bill