/ solution". Might I remind you that my family/last name is Yeung. Yung / Hung is my first name. Er, could we clarify this a bit? So far I have thought that the whole world puts first name first, and family name after, except the Hungarians and the Chinese. Am I mistaken about the Chinese, or have I mistaken you for a Chinese? Sorry for the noise (this really is not the subject here), but I'm so tangled up with all the languages and traditions, and I'm dying of curiosity.