>>Ed,
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>>I know we are using the terminology differently because I know that you know what you're talking about. The definitions I am using for scope adn visibility are;
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>>SCOPE time of existance
>>VISIBILITY addressability
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>Part of the confusion is that scope and visibility are synonimous in general English use.

Albert,

is that not often the case with computer terminology, the English meanings are different than the technical meanings. Ok, I'll cave in and start talking about lifetime and visibility.

In all my previous posts replace the word scope with the word lifetime.