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>>Actually, you said something diofferent, something abominably ignorant.
>>There is no compelling necessity to develop VFP application based on the only presumption that it will be moved to SQL-Server overnight. If client requests C/S application then I develop C/S application, if it requests file-server application then I develop file-server application. Period. Don't try to hide your ignorance behind scalability notion.
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>Ed,
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>Ugghh.. And let's continue using vacuumn tubes too since they work. *g*
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Well, there are an awful lot of really good Class A power amp designs that use'em, and they work better in high radiation environments than transistors. OTOH, the SQL paradigm works just as well in both file server and database backend environments for the data services layer. Again, since I'm comfortable with both, there's really no compelling reason not to use SQL as tool for scoping what my user is doing. Nothing I do at mid-tier makes me want to have the entire domain live and under edit. I may want the entire domain searchable, but the user adds/updates/deletes in a much narrower context. Operations involving the entire domain or large subsections of it tend to be non-UI oriented things.

>To tell someone they are "abominably ignorant" can only be made if one presumes their own authority and moral superiority or adherence to a higher standard. While it may indeed be true that someone else has made such a statement it should be able to hold up to the light of commonly accepted and mutually agreed-upon standards. And, it also requires that there be some mechanism for arbitrating any dispute that might arise. It also presumes that the individual making such a pronouncement is willing to stand by the standard they expect others - otherwise they open themselves up to the charge of hypocrisy.

Guilty - I've called people clueless. Some of them need to visit Rent-A-Clue fairly often. I've had people call me clueless. I try to avoid desrving it. More than one has also accused me of being unnecessarily harsh. Guilty. If I think someone's behavior is unethical, or that they're misinformed, or worse, are providing serious disinformation, I'm rather blunt about it. If I'm spewing crap, other people should definitely speak up. I might not know I'm full of it otherwise.

>Are you such an authority? And, if so, would you be so kind as to explain to me where you have received this authority? Not that I question you but I'd be interested in how you arrived at where you say you are in order that I might follow your example. I'd like to be an authority too.

Ed's done a lot in the past; there are certainly areas of the VFP native controls he knows much better than I do, for example. I don't agree with many of the things he says, but he's entitled to say them. He's even right in doing so as long as he states that his opinions are just that; his opinions. Many other people have different opinions. We're entitled to hear the other side, too, and present an opinion of our own.

And if provoked, or just feeling obnoxious, sink to the lowest level and call total idiots total idiots. Monosynaptic bivalves. Worse - VB programmers. Sometimes you get bonus points for early detection and identification of large quantites of bovine fecal excrement. If it's really obvious, people may be amused that you felt a need to say something. Sometimes you just piss people off.

>So, I'd be very interested in whether this approach you are advocating is based on some technical point I've missed over the last several years or whether it's just a way to, how do I say this nicely.., stay connected to a client and keep them dependent upon my services.

Ed's done nothing to make me question his ethics or honesty in the past. We don't agree on how to design and write an app, but his motives don't seem to be self-serving. He wouldn't tell people how he did things, or the reasons he does them if he wanted to keep others from being able to understand his code and reasoning behind it.

OTOH, he might well be wrong at times. Stick to what he says wrong.

>I am very curious about something (if you will forgive me for asking if it offends you); I'd like to know about where you grew up. I've seen some references to you speaking Russian (if I correctly recall) and have seen a thinking pattern that just facinates the heck out of me.

That's reasonable.