I think that the real problem here is not just that they need to see lots of info about a single job but the minimum amount of info they need at a glance spans several jobs. They are managing 100+ trucks and 30 to 40 jobs in a fast paced environment. Presently I am dropping a container with 20 textboxes containing trucknumbers into a column and it seems to be working. I had considered a grid in a grid but it seemed to be pretty flakey although some features like dynamicbackcolor had some appeal. Thanks