William,

In the last version of Promatrix that I used, 5.0c/6.0, they were still using the built-in menu editor, with its MNX format, and Genmenux. This meant that, although you could define security properties for the menus, if you needed to move a menu bar or pad (or worse, an entire branch), you had to delete it and recreate it, and the menu definitions were lost.

I have not used VPM for about a year, but their new product looks interesting, and I have been meaning to take a glance at it. Perhaps they have changed things since last I used it.

>>Where have I heard this before?? Seems to me, like a year ago, I heard/seen/caught wind of some neat trick for building menus and/or shortcut menus off of meta data in a table.
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>>I'm on a mission & searching now, but I was wondering if this rang any bells for anyone? TIA!
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>FWIW, Promatrix framework uses this approach. And like Kenneths approach, it has the functionality of incorporating security.