On my form is a grid full of children. These child records are ordered on parent key and an arbitrary ordering field. There is nothing alphabetical or numeric in the data to use for ordering, but they still need to be in a certain order. At the moment, the arbitrary order field can be edited by the user. Also, the user can click on a record in the grid, and then add a child with the arb.-order incremented so that the new child follows the selected one. However, I would rather use drag buttons, such as you have in the table designer, so that users never see arbitrary order numbers. How do I make those? Do they work well with a grid or do I need to replace it with a listbox or something? (I hope not.)