FWIW, this isn't the first tim I've run into funkiness with the frames collection. I was trying to parse a page with 3 frames once, and got to where I could use:

oIE.Document.Frames(0).Document.Frames(0).Document.Frames(0).Document.Frames(0)

ad nauseam without causing an error. What was happening, was that any frames collection within the top frames collection was returning a reference to the topmost document.

I feel your frustration. I think this one is safe to call a bug.

>AAARRRRGGGHHH - those damned elementary school programmers at MS!@#!@#!#$#@@!~.
>Suddenly, I have the urge to kill something!
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>Thanks!<g>
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>>Ok, I get the same error as you, but can resolve it by assigning the frame to its own object reference first:
>>
>>oIE = CREATEOBJECT("InternetExplorer.application")
>>oIE.navigate("http://www.shelbynet.com/vfp/test.htm")
>>oFrame2 = oIE.Document.Frames(1)
>>oframe2.Document.Forms(0).UserName.value = "Howdy"
>>oframe2.Document.Forms(0).password.value = "password"
>>oframe2.Document.Forms(0).Submit()