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A better debugger
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09/02/2000 14:57:56
 
 
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04/02/2000 09:03:21
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Visual FoxPro
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Miscellaneous
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00327132
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00329630
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>>Has someone written a better IDE/Debugger for VFP yet? I hope so. I have become so spoiled in the VB IDE. I have truly learned the shortcomings of both. I can only hope that someone has the same needs as I do. I love FP I hate the IDE. Please let me know about any off the shelf or available online IDE/debuggers for VFP.
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>Joe, I just wanted to note that this is personal perception. I hate the VB (VS) IDE. I'm must less productive in the VS IDE.

My sincere apologies for taking so long to reply here. As I thought that this was an important topic that deserved some extra quality time on my part to respond well to. :) Let me say that I love FoxPro I am not in any way saying VB / C++ or any language is better than any other language over all. To me they are all tools in my toolbox. If I am singing way off key on something please share with me so I can be more efficient with my chosen tools.

*//* The IDE (Developer Environment) differences that I find unattractive:
1. Search ability. FoxPro limits your scope SO much. VB allows great flexibility. i.e. selected text, current procedure, current module, whole project that last one is the real bite for me in FP as I am maintaining a lot of code I did not write which is sometimes organized by Satan to torment me.
2. The actual layout of the source I would like to have the option to see everything at once or one method at a time (VB) as opposed to being restricted to single method view. (Maybe this is a by product of whatever causes the search limits.
3. Some of the VB bells and whistles from VB would be well received FP I feel. The capitalization of prototyped variables is persistent in VB. The auto-complete is very nice.
4. In FP I really like the ability to move controls with the arrow keys. VB could use this allot.
5. Ease and flexibility of Data operations in FP would be nirvana in VB. But would be unnecessary if some of the other things in FP were different. Lets face it what handles data better than FP? So given a level playing field I would never choose VB for an app whose overwhelming purpose was the processing of tabular data. At the same time I wouldn't use FP for general utilitarian purposes.
6. Stepping through VB code is an absolute dream. You can make code changes right there in the debug window on the fly!!! This is one thing VB has right. If you can do this in FP I really need to know how.
7. The one thing that really chaps my behind the worst in FP is when you are debugging and you stop or cancel the forms are often left in use. And you go round after round every time you stop debugging. :/ In VB you click the stop button or ctrl-break then stop button and viola your ready to get back to work.
8. Inheritance, encapsulation, polymorphism, and subclassing in VB would be MORE than real nice.
~Joe Johnston USA

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