>>>>I am quite curious about when they fire. I know that the beforeopentables() method in the DE fires before the INIT() and LOAD() of the form...in other words VFP seems to create the DE prior to the form.
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>>>Not exactly. BeforeOpenTables fires, then Form Load, then each of the Init methods of the cursors, then the Init of the DE itself.
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>>Actually, it's even more bizarre than that as I recall; for some reason OpenTables fires before BeforeOpenTables...
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>And they're opened before they're Inited (is that a word???)< g >.

Nope, .Init()ed - because .Init() is a function. If it returns .f., the object will never have existed, right? (How's this for verb tenses? Am I getting in-tense?)