Yes, but he also try to convince developpers of not using grids, unless it's the only control to do the job and even then, it should be read-only. I saw him when he came to our user group and he went to great lenght on this subject, demonstrating us how to mimic the appearance of the grid with a listbox.

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>Actually, I remember an article or presentation by Jim Booth two or three years ago (maybe at FoxTeach) where he demonstrated grid-within-grid drilldowns.