Sorry if I didn't make myself clear. Here is the situation. I have two classes of forms one which requires navigational controls the others don't. I want to create two toolbar classes based on VFP toolbar class - one will have navigational control (moving thru records) and the other will not. I have previously used VFP tastraders application as an example. What they do is instantiate the toolbar and then keep track of the number of instantiation. When the instantiation number reaches 0 the toolbar is release. I need to a similar thing but in my case I need to keep track of different toolbars. I hope this makes it clear. Any help is appreciated.