I don't see my answer to you yet so I'll assume it is lost but it is not a big deal you have to instantiate it on the active top-level form (of your choice) make sure you set the showWindow property of the toolbar to 1 (in-top level form ) instead of 0 (in screen) Arnon >>Nope...not true...a formset is NOT required for a toolbar to work. I don't >use top level forms, but I have seen top level forms with toolbars. > >Hmm. OK. I guess what I meant is that if you want to add a toolbar via >the form designer you have to [have a formset]. Since the only other way I >know of is via code, I assume that's what you're talking about. I'll have >to fiddle with addobject and see if I can get it going that way. > >Thanks, though!! > >