>I'm sorry, folks, but this type of discussion doesn't belong here. I have frozen the thread. We all have very different viewpoints on crime, morality, and other serious issues that -- while important to be sure -- don't belong here on the UT.

John, I'm generally quite neutral in these chatter matters, and usually do not even read them, but this thread and related ones are umm, rather noticeable. One thing we have learned the hard way about this topic in my primary philatelic forum (which will certainly kill any idea of philatelists all being mild-mannered, ho-hum people :) - freezing or deleting "off-topic" threads invariably causes way more new chatter than the original probably would've...it happens every time. Only outright flaming is now banned.