Nigel,

Here's a method I use to find the minimum width a grid needs to be completely visible.

local i, j

j = 10 + sysmetric( 5 ) + 2 * this.GridLineWidth && record marker & vertical scroll bar
for i = 1 to this.ColumnCount
   with this.Columns[i]
      j = j + .Width + this.GridLineWidth
   endwith
endfor

return j

In this grid I have the DeletedMarker turned off otherwise you need another 10 pixels in the first assignment.

>I give up! Is there any easy way of identifying how wide a grid is after populating. Something along the lines of grid.totalwidth would be great. I'm leaning towards adding up the widths of each column but that is still a long way short of the actual width.