Hi John --

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>.Just another symptom of a tool encouraging bad design, I guess?

Tools don't encourage bad designs. Bad designs are the result of poor skills on the part of a developer....
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LOL! Man, you are *just* as dense as ever, aren't you? Have you seen me disagreeing with you anywhere on this topic? Do you think, for even *one* freakin' moment I would hesitate to speak up if I did? <bg>

Shhheeeeeeeeeeee-it! Pull your head out. :-)

Later... Karl

PS -- Choice of tools may *indicate* the "skill-level" of the developer, though. Take this board, for instance. (Please! <bg>)