> >>I saw that _SCREEN.Left=-2000 is much more reliable idea (I don't know > why). Surely, after this all forms should have Desktop=.T. > > > >Looks like I overlooked the desktop property. I thought that if the main > form had its desktop property set to .T., and all other forms had > showwindow = 1 (in top level form) then all the forms should be visible but > that isn't the case. when do you instantiate the rest of the forms - if this is done before you Desktop form is the active form the forms will not be instantiated inside it (same goes for toolbars > >As for making the form invisible as opposed to moving it off of the > screen, I chose invisible because it also hides the duplicate button on the > command bar. Do you know of a way around this when using '_screen.left = > -2000'? > > Actually, not. Moreover, I assumed, that making _SCREEN invisible still > leave butoon on taskbar. to prevent the _SCreen from apearing at all (in VFP5) put SCREEN=OFF in the config file you can then make it visible with _screen.visible=.t. at any time Arnon