>Well, murdering someone is certainly cause for the death penalty Mike. Perhaps you do not "feel" that this should be the case but for some 6,000 years of recorded history it sure has been, in varying degrees.

Not in MN, I don't think. You can get in and out in abut 8 years for murder here. I know people that are doing longer than that for drug stuff, FWIW, and think its too bad where they're harsher (including what you might do to a software autohr).

Anyway, I'm way off topic...