you can use DEs in PRGs and instantiate it in the load event - I created a tool called the DE-Extractor (avaialable on VFUG) that creates the PRG from a DE created in the form designer Arnon >But how can I use DE in VCX-based forms? And second: I'm hardly believe >that DE opens tables noticeable faster than USE command. > >Have a happy day >Vladimir Shevchenko > >> >also note that the DE is faster in opening tables (relative to USE) >> becasue the code for the DE can access the internal VFP C++ code for >> opennning the tables while the USE command has to be > >