Hi Barbara, > >Boy, did I have a bad day yesterday - I simply gave up too early on a > coupla things! Must smarten up!!! > > > Jim, when it comes to Visual MaxFrame, bad days are the norm. That > puppy is COMPLICATED! > Please excuse me for disagreeing, but I find the bad days (I am using the Professional version) usually come down to either a mistake in coding by me, or a VFP bug. I have found a very small number of problems in VMP, and these have always been corrected very quickly. I do agree that it is quite complicated - that's how it gets its power and versatility. Kevin