Roxanne....

.....the issue and therefore looking like quite the fool in this case :)

It was a really strange moment. One of those... I'm not sure I really heard that. I told a friend about it and they were so interested they wrote and got a transcript.

Aside.... Did I pick up somewhere that you are a codebook expert?

I'm trying to follow a suggestion in a thread a few days ago that tearing apart a framework is a good way to learn oop. So I found the codebook web site but I can't download the files I need becasue their firewall protection screws up IE. Got any suggestions?