>>>>>>>That code is built into VFP and you have to be a member of the Fox team to see it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You can get the titlebar height using one of the Sysmetric options and you can add that to you Form.Height.
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>>>>>>I just thought of an ugly workaround. I'll just maximize one form, get its height, then do the rearrangements. I can't think of anything else less complicated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks for everyone's inputs.
>>>>>>Ramil 7/10
>>>>>
>>>>>Forgot to add, SYSMETRIC() helped a lot too. Thanks, Larry.
>>See "Cascade/Tile Windows" (FILE#9492) under Win32 and Other APIs. I seem also to recall that there's another way to do this, but the method escapes me.
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>Shell.Application offers a mechanism.

Yeah, but doesn't that only apply to top-level windows?