Actaully this whole app is a problem. It was originaly written in Paradox (ughhh) and got it's data from FP 2.6 files. The new local telco upgraded to VFP 6, and scince the paradox prg was no good, we are writing a whole new app to replace it. The phone bill comes as two self extracting exes, each with several more self extarting exes before we even get to the dbf's with the phone bill! setting up the dirs and subs must be in code. This is going to be fun, but we solved part of it. Thanks all