Dennis,

Relations are something we inherited from our FoxPro past. I've stopped using them since the first day of VFP. I don't use tables and filters but far prefer parameterized views.

José

>I spent the last week trying to figure out why my multi-page pageframe form, with a different table on each page, crashed when I moved to a particular record or when I tried to add a record to a table. I was using a database with six tables and five relationships.
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>Today I removed the relationships and replaced them with filters. Everthing works great now. I can even put my child tables in order by a name or date field instead of the primary key field.