>I've never seen the form load problem that started this thread, but being able to click the "X" button on a form while the mousepointer is set to HourGlass I have seen before. It is quite annoying... I get it at certain places in the Mere Mortals framework & I'm just careful to hide the form momentarily.

I suppose this is more likely do to some code womewhere changing the mousepointer to an hourglass, which does not disable it. IME, when the system changes the pointer to an hourglass, you can't use it in that app.