>VFP has never been in the VS shell...which is just fine with me...I *HATE* the VS development shell. Unfortunately, I think that we'll see VFP folded in...prolly not in 7.0, but maybe 8.0 or 9.0.

With the looks of things, even if it doesnt get folded into the common development shell, it seems to me the common tools like win forms and perhaps other web services will get us using the common development shell whether we like it or not, in order to create parts & pieces that we'll use from within VFP.

>As for not using CLR, anything is speculation at this point. But, if it doesn't support it until, say, 8.0, is it really that big of deal???

For large & complex enterprise apps I think it would be a big deal. For the sake of bragging rights (after all us fox folks are typically a territorial bunch for the most part right?< g >) I think it's also a big deal... but can I live without it initially? Sure... but all the more reason to get off the fox fence and start learning more than just basics with one of the varsity team tools.

Think about this... we've been seeing glimpses of VFP7 for a quite a long time now. Why havent we gotten it yet? VS 7 was delayed. CLR is pretty massive change IMHO for all the other dev tools, no wonder they delayed it. Now look at how long it's taken us to even get a promise of VFP OLEDB provider. Are we really gonna keep the majority of out skilled set focused on a minor play tool thats constantly coming into the game late always guessing if we're going to get to play with the big boys? I dont know about you but it's starting to get old.

>OK..so VB is getting inheritance. How long did it take Fox developers to figure out inheritance. In fact, I'll bet the majority of Fox developers don't use inheritance correctly. Those of us that do, will be light years (ok..only 5) ahead of the VB guys in terms of understand how to really make use of it.

Funny you should bring up inheritance... Not only is VB getting inheritance, it's getting it in a bigger and better way from the way I see it. Multiple language inheritance... that's awesome news! And here's the irony, we were shown VFP getting intellisense in a bigger & better way than VB. And now VB is getting inheritance in a bigger and better way. < g > figures.