Exactly - Me too - and I'm sitting pretty well!

>PMFJI all but - Terry - the issue was never "commercial" vs "your own". As a vertical market app director of development I have coded my own framework that does what I need it to and skips a lot of the overhead of a commercial framework.
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>But the point you seemed to be arguing was "no framework" over "any kind of framework". Whether you just miscommunicated or are truly clueless - I still don't know - but from your last post it sounds like we all may be talking apples and oranges here.
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>Ken
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>>Can you be open to this:
>>Is it possible that a developer has been building high end applications a long time - and just maybe - has a library (frame-work) that surpasses commercially developed ones. This could be the case. Would you think it possible a developer without a commercial framework could build better systems than developers using a frame work? Do frameworks anticipate the weakest link?
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>>>>Must be for very simple requirements.
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>>>LOL... boy are you in a dark. I suggest you follow the link I gave you, do a search here on the word "framework", and look around the tradeshow if you ever get to a VFP Developer Conference. I think you'll realize rather quickly the only way "simple requirements" applies to the subject of frameworks is in terms of "what you can do without a framework"
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>>>The real question you should be asking if you honestly have never heard of a framework before is "do I build my own" or "do I buy one".