>Oops! I didn't mean to send that last one.
>
>First move your 'end with' up and explain what you mean by they don't resize properly (not at all, not correctly and if so what do they do/what should they do)
>

>With Me.fraImplementation
>   .Left = Me.fraComponents.Left
>   .Top = Me.fraComponents.Top
>   .Width = Me.Width - (.Left * 2)
>   .Height = Me.Height - .Top
>End With
>
>nCurLeft = Me.txtImplementation.Left
>nCurTop = Me.txtImplementation.Top
>Me.txtImplementation.Height = Me.fraImplementation.Height - (nCurTop * 2)
>Me.txtImplementation.Width = Me.fraImplementation.Width - (nCurLeft * 2)
>

>
>btw. use pre tags

and

around your text
>

>text here
>        retains its spacing
>                   see
>

Chad,

The multi-line text boxes extend off the viewable area ... They return dimensions that should be correct, and are positioned correctly retaining their positioning at 120 twips offset from the frame that contains them.

Top and Left should both be 120, this works just fine.
Height should be the height of the frame - (2 * Top)
Width should be the width of the frame - (2 * left)

ie . Centered in the frame whatever size the frame ends up being.

Thanks for the help...

Jason