Good idea. I'll use it in my own work. Unfortunately the class in question is one I'm required to use for a project, and the object pointers are built in.

Maybe I can talk to the original designers.....

Barbara

>Why not use a character depiction of the reference, instead of a direct
>pointer? This'll take a millisecond to resolve into a pointer when you
>require it, but it'll also allow you to blow away objects on a whim (or
>a crash) if required. In any of the application level classes that I
>use, I hold a character reference, just so I don't have a pointer
>holding the object open.